Scoping a Chunk

[Nail]

Finally got all the pieces of the 243AI build together. I've been contemplating glass options the last few days and wanted to get some opinions.

This will be a PIG. It wiil not be carried. Mainly it will be a fun long range setup for shots up to 1000. I am leaning MarkIV 3.5-10X40/M1. How would you roll?

 

[Horse1]

Mine's 16# and 12-42x56 nxs topped.

 

[Painless]

I think I am gonna go NFC NXS on my new 260

 

[Rogue]

Finally got all the pieces of the 243AI build together. I've been contemplating glass options the last few days and wanted to get some opinions.

This will be a PIG. It wiil not be carried. Mainly it will be a fun long range setup for shots up to 1000. I am leaning MarkIV 3.5-10X40/M1. How would you roll?

I really dig that scope. Think it's one of those great bargains for a real performer...

 

[RBOBM]

NXS if your going to hunt starting with 3.5 or 5.5 if you going to hunt when it counts most of the time.

 

[Nail]

The NF setups are not going to be in the budget. As a matter of fact, I was hoping to score a used MarkIV. Money is very tight at the moment.

 

[Horse1]

Offender mentioned above:

 

[Prowler]

+1 for the Leupie MK 4. Got a couple of them and no complaints.

NF prolly has a slight edge optically. But not by much.

 

[Big Stick]

The MK4 M1 3.5-10x is my favorite variable by a mile,but a MK4 M1 straight 10x ain't too hard to take on a PIG..................

 

[Nail]

What's up with the Vari-X III Tactical version of same? Differences and such.

 

[go ahead]

What's up with the Vari-X III Tactical version of same? Differences and such.

The "one" I have has covered turrets not m1's.

 

[Dan In Alaska]

I ended up with a VX-II 6-18x in a buy/trade/swap deal, and I sent it to Leupold for the M1 treatment:

Here is the whole rifle before the M1's (.223AI, 1-8 Pacnor, A5):

The rifle now wears a Seekins 20MOA base and rings. Holy shit are they ever nice!

 

[Nail]

What's up with the Vari-X III Tactical version of same? Differences and such.

The "one" I have has covered turrets not m1's.

That may or may not be strange as I don't know anything about them, but he one's I found online have the M1's.

I was wondering if they were the predecessor the MarkIV or something else all together.

 

[raghornjp]

[quote} I was wondering if they were the predecessor the MarkIV. [/quote]
Yep!

 

[archie_james_c]

I have a Vari-X III Tact. 3.5-10X40 and you can dig them up for a song and a dance. 1" tubed VariX III with target turrets North and East. I found mine for 400$ shipped to my door.

Its far from a Mark 4 3.5-10 but its not a terrible option to have on your reloading bench

 

[TWR]

I like mine but also like the 4.5-15 on the green rifle.

The 3.5-10 is almost 2" longer for some reason.

 

[Nail]

So...is the consensus that 10X is enough magnification or will it be a little lacking? Beginning to think about the 16X MarkIV.

I'm not even sure how often I will get the opportunity to stretch it out to the 800-1000 range, but I want to be properly equipped for such times.

 

[Big Stick]

I've routinely done shit with 6x that cain't be done and 10x is more than plenty for me.

Though I've a MK4 M1 16x too........................

 

[archie_james_c]

Stick how do you like that 16X? I had an 8.5-25 Mark 4 and it ranks up there with "giant expensive pieces of shit" in my books. The eye box on it made me think I was gunning an Elite 3200 only worse.

Is the 16's eye box more 6X42-ish?

 

[Big Stick]

I've had several 16x's and the Mk4 is easily the best of the lot. Fixed glass is always friendlier than zooms,when talking a static eyebox and the Mk4 16's eye-relief in conjunction with same,is rather user friendly.

I drive it on a fast twist Hart spouted 22-250AI in a return handle and think highly of the system..............

 

[Nail]

Went ahead and grabbed the 10X MarkIV(duplex/M1s) off of sampleslist. It's looks to be an older vintage but is in good shape. Gave $750 for it.

 

[Big Stick]

EVERY swingin' dick that has shot Secondhand Rose,fell in love with it.

Done alotta shit with that particular Mk4 M1 10x...that couldn't be did................

 

[RBOBM]

I think the leupie's might have better glass. They seem clearer to me. ;however, the turret on the night force is 3 times as good.

+1 for the Leupie MK 4. Got a couple of them and no complaints.

NF prolly has a slight edge optically. But not by much.

 

[Big Stick]

NightFarce has yet to show me anything,whether in Theory or Application.

Though they's currently in vogue with Mall Ninja Range Queens...................(grin)

 

[Prowler]

I think the leupie's might have better glass. They seem clearer to me. ;however, the turret on the night force is 3 times as good.

+1 for the Leupie MK 4. Got a couple of them and no complaints.

NF prolly has a slight edge optically. But not by much.

Never fucked with turrets on either of the two I poked a glance through. One was on a 338 Lapua and a 50 BMG I shot.

 

[Big Stick]

I spun a turret.

Once................(grin)

 

[Rogue]

Once......

 

[Prowler]

I spun a turret.

Once................(grin)

Really??....Laffin....

 

[archie_james_c]

EVERY swingin' dick that has shot Secondhand Rose,fell in love with it.

Done alotta shit with that particular Mk4 M1 10x...that couldn't be did................

What is that beautiful little slut chambered in? Feel free to wrap it in bubble wrap and send it South-East into Canada for some S&M....I mean R&D.....

 

[Big Stick]

PN 8" 223AI................

 

[bgold]

That shit won't work....grin

 

[Big Stick]

It's fairly impressive.

I've had it out to 50MOA on the erector and holding another 5 Mils on top of it...however the fuck that far is...................(grin)

 

[archie_james_c]

Depends if youre speaking in 75 Amax or 64 Power Point

 

[Big Stick]

I've shot barge loads of 50's to other Worlds...the 64PP not so much................

 

[Oatmealsavage82]

NightFarce has yet to show me anything,whether in Theory or Application.

Though they's currently in vogue with Mall Ninja Range Queens...................(grin)

Couldnt agree more, had this exact conversation with a buddy today

 

[Armed Ferret]

Zombie thread wants some brains.

 

[Nail]

Didn't want to start another thread so I'll just continue here.

Stopped by a gun shop today looking to see what they had on hand in the way of scopes and ask the guys a question about my Kimber TLE. While looking at scopes and telling the guy which ones I'm looking for he tells me Mark (I don't know Mark, I assume he works there time to time) has a used Mark IV fixed 10X for sale. I ask how much, he says $500. I ask to see it.

Looks legit. M1's feel like they might have a touch of mush but are also quite audible. Then I bring it up to my eye and I don't even see a reticle.
After finding proper eye relief and tuning the eyepiece I can barely see it, Target Dot. FUCK!

I know from what I see in the store I don't like it but maybe in the field it will be useable. Really wasn't looking for another 10X but the price is definitely right.

Questions:

What would I need to look for that would tell me to run?

What does a reticle swap run these days?

 

[16Bore]

Last time I axed, it was $60. May wanna double check. Isn't that the one that was counterfeited years ago?

 

[kup]

link to the counterfeit Leupolds

http://www.leupold.com/resources/counterfeit-warning/

kup